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The Best Slackware-Like Is Slackware, Not Arch

Submitted by srlinuxx on Thursday 30th of November 2006 02:32:05 PM Filed under
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A few days ago I've hurt a little the feelings of Zenwalk's developers. I said then that my next attempt to find «a better Slackware than Slackware» will involve Arch Linux.

Arch Linux not only has a nice logo, a large repository (including the "community" one) and a powerful package manager, but it also comes with a great Arch Linux 0.7.2 (Gimmick) Installation Guide — which, of course, I have not read beforehand.

Installing Arch Linux is more like in the Slackware way: a ncurses (text) setup that offers you the following steps:

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This is a bad review. I've

Submitted by hussam on Thursday 30th of November 2006 05:39:43 PM.

This is a bad review. I've had ArchLinux since 0.7.1 and I never had an issue with it. As for the 'file conflicts', I never ever got those before and those usually only appear if you compile a package from source 'make install' and then try to install the same package using the package manager which is a extremely rare case amongst Archlinux users.
In any case, those can be overrided by doing pacman -Sf .

Hussam, you're eating $h1t

Submitted by Béranger on Thursday 30th of November 2006 07:57:09 PM.

Hussam, don't tell me what _I_ did!
I have never installed anything in Arch, but used:
-- the system installer;
-- pacman.
YOU are the stupid one that can't accept that YOUR installer is bad.

No, you're eating ****

Submitted by hussam on Friday 1st of December 2006 11:24:50 AM.

I'm not the kid who goes around saying words like $h1t.
If anyone is stupid, it's you. If a problem that thousands of people didn't see and you did, then it is your fault. You're probably some kid who likes to go bashing stuff you don not understand.

Hmmm...

Submitted by stmok on Friday 1st of December 2006 05:21:54 AM.

Interesting problems you've experienced.

I did experience a similar issue when I opted to install the whole thing...But realised you really shouldn't. Stick with the base and trim off the crap you don't need. (PCMCIA tools, wireless, etc)

The other major issue is in regards to updating from the CD install. You get a kernel panic. Problem was solved by finding this line:
=> initrd /boot/initrd26.img
change it to
=> initrd /boot/kernel26.img

Other than that, I haven't suffered any other major issue. Gnome, KDE, Xfce4, Enlightenment all worked for me. I've never experienced the other issues you've had.

I've managed to setup up MythTV with MCE usb remote (that's my AUS$47 dollar contribution to Microsoft for 2006!), using Arch.

I kinda like it. Boots much quicker than those "easy to use" distros. Arch has worked for me. (I started seriously using it last week).

But then again, you didn't read the documentation BEFORE installing, did you? Well done. Rolling Eyes

You're trying to put your Slackware experience right onto Arch. This is no different to a Windows user trying to bring their Windows experience to Linux. When it doesn't work out, they say Linux sucks. (I've seen this so many times, in so many forums around the world! Its not funny anymore!)

You didn't read the Arch docs. You suffered for it. And then you complain? Get off you high horse dude. Rolling Eyes

There's no other distro like Slackware. If you like Slackware, stick to it. Don't try to put your Slackware-habits onto another distro, because its not gonna get you anywhere.

Stick to a distro that works for you.

RE: Hmmm...

Submitted by Béranger on Friday 1st of December 2006 10:01:07 AM.

stmok wrote:
I opted to install the whole thing...But realised you really shouldn't. Stick with the base and trim off the crap you don't need. (PCMCIA tools, wireless, etc)
No kidding: why do I have an installer if I should only install a basic system, huh? If the installer is broken, please tell me and I will go for another distro. (In Slackware I install almost everything, except for KDE, wireless and a few other things.)
stmok wrote:
But then again, you didn't read the documentation BEFORE installing, did you? Well done. Rolling Eyes
In most distros I don't need to read anything to install them, and this is regardless of the text/GUI installer. The _only_ time I have read a "how to install me" guide it was with OpenBSD, and it was because of disklabel.

stmok wrote:
You're trying to put your Slackware experience right onto Arch. This is no different to a Windows user trying to bring their Windows experience to Linux.
Let's get real, this is NOT the case. There are a dozen of distros that install 90% more like Slackware, and Arch is one of them. When you fsck a blonde, there isn't much difference than when you fscked a redhead.

stmok wrote:
You didn't read the Arch docs. You suffered for it. And then you complain?
Like I said, I don't need to read anything to install a Linux distro! Except for RELEASE NOTES and ERRATA.

stmok wrote:
Stick to a distro that works for you.
I'm sticking with three distros that work for me: CentOS, Debian and Slackware. All different from each other, but (thanks God), none of them using Pacman.

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